A bill to force manufactures to share thier diagnostic and repair info

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ron-maizis
August 7th, 2012 8:08pm
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A bill to have manufacturers share their diagnostic and repair information to all mechanics (not just the dealer) got approval from Massachusetts lawmakers on Tuesday, according to the Boston Globe.



The Right to Repair Bill, say supporters, would let the consumer be able to choose any mechanic to repair his or her vehicle, as all mechanics would have access to the appropriate equipment. Formerly, some of this diagnostic equipment was reserved for the manufacturer, leaving consumers forced to return to the dealer for repairs.
jim-owen
August 25th, 2015 9:09am
This is long overdue. A few Canadian provinces have already enacted similar legislation, however the legislation is there but the enforcement is not. We can only hope that this changes as well.
joseph-toth
August 25th, 2015 9:09am
Hi,

In East EU the situation is very different.

If you want to stay alive, choose a HD dealer to working for. To be "free" has big price..

You must be very good in domain, with solid resources (tools, car, documentations, etc.) and this is not a guarantee of success..

Customers have a greater confidence in dealers than free people.

Receive only crumbs.
jim-owen
August 25th, 2015 9:09am
It was good to hear from you, T-joe. But I think we need a little clarification:



If you want to stay alive, choose a HD dealer to working for. To be "free" has big price..



Are you saying that to stay alive, do you mean 'make a living', or are you saying 'your life may be in danger', if you try to change the way things are done. I really hope you mean 'make a living'.



And what do you mean when you say 'to be free has a big price'?



I have spent all my working life in Canada, and only visited the US, England and Scotland, so I am relatively ignorant of life beyond these four countries. The USA is nearing a closed society very much like the old USSR and China: Visitors made to feel unwelcome; anyone of colour or of youth, is a drug smuggler or a terrorist.



There have been citizens of the USA, Syria, Egypt and other countries that have dared to inform the world of their governments atrocities, and are now paying the price.



Is this the kind of thing you mean in Romania? Now, I understand if you can't or won't say, I don't want to get you in trouble, but I'm curious and I'm certain there are many others that would be interested in knowing.
will-tilley
August 25th, 2015 9:09am
And so they should be made to share their diagnostic info just like the automotive world has gone with OBD 2 diagnostics. Currently every manufacturer of heavy trucks has there own programs. I am a fleet mechanic with several different makes of trucks in the fleet now what do I buy for to help diagnose issues. I would have to buy software for each different manufacturer not including the laptop and interface tools. Why can't we have a generic tool such as the automotive world has?
lee-garrett
August 25th, 2015 9:09am


Will Tilley wrote:

And so they should be made to share their diagnostic info just like the automotive world has gone with OBD 2 diagnostics. Currently every manufacturer of heavy trucks has there own programs. I am a fleet mechanic with several different makes of trucks in the fleet now what do I buy for to help diagnose issues. I would have to buy software for each different manufacturer not including the laptop and interface tools. Why can't we have a generic tool such as the automotive world has?




We already have this. You can buy a Pro-Link with a "generic" HD standard cartridge that will check/clear codes, read data lists, and trip info like an OBD2 scanner will. It just won't do EVERY function like the Cat, Cummins Insite, DDEC, etc. software will do. Most auto dealer software programs are still not available to average people.
blaine-hoffman
August 25th, 2015 9:09am
Jim do you know if BC has this legislation? thanks for your time.
jim-owen
August 25th, 2015 9:09am
Blaine, no, to the best of my knowledge BC does not have this legislation. Alberta does.



Lee G. - I am aware of the Prolink scanners. Yes they are generic, and yes you can read the codes, and yes you can clear the codes on most equipment; but that is all you can do.



You must not have worked at a dealership yet and had the opportunity to see what can be accomplished with the non-generic scan tool.



Enjoy.
daniel-figueiredo
August 25th, 2015 9:09am
in Ontario the automotive side has that available where they can scanners with software programs for the vehicles that the repair shop work on the most. On the heavy equipment and on trucks there has been talk for a long time about HD-OBD where it is just like the OBD 2 where you the common connector for all vehicles and you have access to vehicle's modules. But cuurently there is a software manufacturer called Noregon they supply the software programs for all manufacturers but gives the user the ability to read codes, clear codes, and monitor data. But the ability to perform special functions like cylinder cut-out tests. The user has to the program from the manufacturer's making it very expensive maintain.

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