What Are You Worth?

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ben
December 3rd, 2009 3:19pm
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How much do you think you are worth? What industry to do you work in and why do you think you are worth the rate of pay that you are charging (or expect to charge) out for your Technician services?
romulo-a-binuya
December 3rd, 2009 6:14pm
I saw, the on-going rate in Alberta for HE Technician is from 20 to 55 dollars per hour. I can't say what I deserve right now, I have no idea about the cost of living in Alberta, but a good salary should be something to live on and something to grow on... more than enough less than too much...
ben
December 10th, 2009 3:22pm
This may be a really great place to help set “the standard” when it comes to addressing compensation thin this industry. Some perspective on perceived worth in the mechanic industry might really help as companies set their rates going forward.
will-tilley
December 11th, 2009 2:19am
Last year here in Newfoundland the technicians at the local Caterpiller dealership went on strike to up thier wages.They wanted to be paid the same per hour as the technicians in Ontario as they both worked for Toromont Cat.In the end the workers went back to work but I think that the Ontario workers are paid more still and the company's idea is that the cost of living is not as much in Newfoundland.My problem is that a C-12 engine is the same to repair in Newfoundland as Ontario or Alberta.I think there should be some sort of national average as per qualifications,because as we see now that if you pay out ridiculious salaries it will come back to haunt you as it is for Finning-closing down branches due to profit losses.
ben
December 11th, 2009 3:53pm
I think you have a point there.



That said, if the jobs in NL paid as much at the jobs in ON then why would anyone live in ON? Isn't the quality of life in NL better? How would you recommend encouraging people to take jobs in more crowded areas, or in less livable conditions? This is not at all a challenge, because I agree with you that people should be paid the equally for equal work. It’s just that if every region paid the same for work, then what would keep people going to out-of-the-way Fort McMurray or dealing with 1.5 hour commutes in Toronto and Vancouver?
ron-mellor
December 12th, 2009 3:07am
Interesting topic. It is my belief is as a whole us HD's and mechanics in general are under appreciated and a bit under paid. Industry has been complaining for years that the can not find enough qualified Journeymen mechanics (or Apprentices)to fill the demand. This is due (in my view) to the shortage of people willing to enter the trades, all trades.



Saying this shouldn't the law of price and demand come into play here. If company "A" needs journeymen mechanics then in a tight supply situation (that's us)would it not be wise to offer more than the company "B" to get the needed mechanics? Lets face it we are being billed out at far more than we are paid and I have no problem with that.



Ft Mac was mentioned there is an example price/demand working. I often work in Ft Mac and and the area as a field mechanic. It is not really a nice place to live and some of the cash offered is enticement cash. But it all comes down to Syncrude, Suncor, Finning and the rest all pay great money to work for them up there. And that's because they have the demand and are willing to pay for the limited supply(that's us) to be there.



In my many trips up there I fly and a lot of guys on the plane are not permanent residents of Ft Mac. They do there time and fly home on rotation. So if industry/shops needs mechanics in Newfoundland or Ontario then they best up the pay/benefits to attract guys away from Ft Mac after all they live just around the corner (figuratively)
jim-owen
December 12th, 2009 5:28pm
Your question inspires a thousand others.



The province of New Bruinswick has the most rigid apprenticeship program. Does that means mechanics from there are more highly trained?



I know of one licensed mechanic that spent his entire apprenticeship in the lube bay. Does that mean you are more qualified and he is not?



I know of several licensed mechanics that worked on nothing except engines. Does that mean you are more qualified and they are not?



I know of lots of mechanics that studied hard and got great marks and got their license.



I know of a few that either struggled and failed.

Others that really didn't care or didn't try too hard and failed.

And then there are the ones who repeatedly failed because their brain failed them when it came to writing the exam. If these people eventually got their license, does that mean you are more qualified and they are not?



Should there be a license with multiple classifications?



Should the heavy duty trade be divided into multiple trades: engines, drivelines, undercarriages, cranes and lifting equipment, etc.?



Should a mechanic that has multiple levels of certification get more money?



Should a mechanic that has multiple trades get more money? (HD, CT, Auto, Welder, etc.)



Should this qualification package apply across the country?



If it costs more to live in one area than in another, should the mechanic be paid a separate living package to compensate, above their base salary? What about benefits and/pension?



Does a mechanic that worked for one employer for 20 years have less experience than a mechanic that has worked for 20 employers?



Is a mechanic that works seasonal or temporary jobs less reliable?



Should a mechanic that makes $100,00 in 6 months be eligible for EI.



I'm sure I could go on and I feel sure that others will add to the list.



To me, it seems very unlikely any resolution can be found.
romulo-a-binuya
December 16th, 2009 7:04am
Whoa! jimo you overwhelmed me, that's a loader bucketful of questions which I must confess I'm inadequate to answer.



I agree, it seems unlikely any resolution can be found. Salary and wages is a history-long issue, even Moses negotiated with his would-be father-in-law about what his wages should be, fine prints exists on those days, he was tricked as the story go.



By the way, the best company I've seen in this Hub about compensation package is the Grande Cache Coal Company, too bad for me, I'm not yet licensed, they'll hire unlicensed but at lower rate.
ben
February 5th, 2011 4:10am
Several people insist on taking low wages as a Heavy Equipment Mechanic. I have worked both shop and field service for over 15 years. A good journey level mechanic should make between 22.00 and 35.00 an hour. I know some rural areas like to pay less, but that's because you allow them to pay less. In rural area, 22.00 should be the bottom for a good journeyman. I got called out to a company recently to service a loader with weak hydraulics, the foreman said there mechanic was out on medical leave. He had hurt his back doing heads on an engine. After conversation for a while I found out that he only pays his 8 year veteran Heavy Equipment Mechanic 12.00 an hour. How much is your expertise and your back worth?? Turn them down if the wage is not right
ben
February 5th, 2011 8:10am
I work on anything from a lawn mower to a 120 ton crane. In the feild in the -40 weather and in the shop. I wont get out of bed for anything less than 35 in the shop and 80 in the field... that is with my own truck. i am a licenced welder mechanic and good with a laith

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